Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2018

Edward Dutton, Bruce Charlton, The Genius Famine:

"we would emphasize that to understand intelligence requires understanding that sometimes a person may be of high intelligence and not have a similarly high IQ score (in other words, their IQ score is under-estimating their intelligence) - and that this may be the case no matter how validly, how often and how carefully the IQ is measured and calculated. And another person may have high IQ scores, measured in the best ways and by the best methods, yet not be of similarly high intelligence (in other words, their IQ score is over-estimating their intelligence).
Highly intelligent people who do not score highly on IQ tests are easy to understand - because anything which reduces test performance could lead to this outcome: illness, pain, impaired consciousness and impaired concentration from sleepiness, drugs, drug-withdrawal, mental-illness ... there are multiple causes, and some are chronic (long-lasting, perhaps life-long).
And people with high IQ scores who are not of similarly high intelligence to their scores are familiar to anyone who has attended a highly-selective college or educational programme or who are members of intellectually 'elite' professions; since they typically make-up a large proportion of participants."

3 Kommentare:

  1. For shore..
    It's created a uber requirement for IQ as if, if it's don't match with perceived intelligence so it's "easily" to conclude that "there is something wrong with this person" while I think will not be always because problematic causes. Based on this logic, most ashkenazis would be mentally ill because they "traditionally" have huge discrepancy between their verbal and spatial IQ. And it's not all mentally challenged people who will have highly asymmetric psychometric cognitive profile, many them will have or have symmetric ones... Sometimes the "cause" for a uneven cognitive profile is not exceptionally dramatic or interesting, it's just part of expected variation of most traits.

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  2. It's not about an asymmetric intelligence profile. I once heard a physician make a statement about the following observation: If a person suffers from a severe mental disorder, in most cases it's still possible to recognize that this person had (and still has) high intelligence. Although there is some destructive, degenerative process going on, the giftedness frequently shines through.

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    1. Only recognized or known psychiatric case where high intelligence [in some detectable or salient way] and overall lower IQ tests [permanently lower] seems to happen with several autistic individuals, at least in my perception. I don't have notice of such phenomenon in another cases.

      Also, the authors seems don't stablish well what they mean when they talk about ''[higher] intelligence'', their concept.

      I'm attacking this idea that ONLY chronic causes which can result in dissociation between characteristically perceived/genuine manifestation of higher intelligence and higher IQ scores. Seems we can find many highly intelligent individuals among lower-IQ populations who also score lower in IQ tests. In this cases we are talking about qualitative aspects instead quantitative, what IQ tend to measure.

      One of the fundamental problems of IQ measurement is that this simply don't measure and compare performance IN real world and inevitably it's mean analyse ''heuristic levels'' from the most important facts to the most recent/abstract/cognitively difficult to grasp.

      This type of discuss put IQ as a standard/end and intelligence as a subaltern while i think it's completely otherwise. Dissociation between qualitative and quantitative cognitive traits may happen too and it's not always a sig of mental ''illness'' [disorder is a better term for most psychiatric disorder, a intermediary state between wellness spectrum and illness spectrum].

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